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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Nov 3, 2004 16:25:08 GMT -5
I can't post on the injuries poll, so I will post my post here, I think that even though there is some "bug" in the system for AL, that it would not be fair to give the AL instant heals without giving the NL the same amount of instant heals, I mean fine there is a bug in the system, then don't use it, but if we do use it, then either everyone should be treated equally or we shouldn't have it on, i mean what if this season say the Cubs have all of there SP go down for an extended period of time, in 2006 are we going to give the AL and the Cubs instant heal, I mean if the system is that bad, then we shouldn't use it, but if you really want the injuries on then either everyone should have instant heal or nobody should have instant heal, regardless of the "bug"
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Post by rangersgm on Nov 3, 2004 18:14:34 GMT -5
The problem is that that would never happen to an NL team, but something like 3 of them wouldn't be too rediculous to happen to an AL team.
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Nov 3, 2004 18:25:36 GMT -5
doesn't matter, I mean what if one team in the AL only has one injury, and they use there injury freebie card and go all year without an injury, as to a NL team getting one injury and having to actually have the guy sit out. It is not fair to give this Freebie to the AL without the NL, for that reason.
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Post by Bill Stoneman on Nov 3, 2004 18:45:08 GMT -5
doesn't matter, I mean what if one team in the AL only has one injury, and they use there injury freebie card and go all year without an injury, as to a NL team getting one injury and having to actually have the guy sit out. It is not fair to give this Freebie to the AL without the NL, for that reason. There won't be 1 injury for AL teams. This will balance it out. AL gets far more injuries than the NL, trust me.
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Nov 3, 2004 18:51:04 GMT -5
so you are telling me that EVERY SINGLE AL teams will all have at least 2 DEVASTATING injuries every year, and not ONE NL team will have 2?
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Post by Bill Stoneman on Nov 3, 2004 22:37:39 GMT -5
I'd say that the team with the least injuries in the AL would have more than the one with the most in the NL. AL gets more injuries in general. Teams can use the instaheal on a 10 day injury for all I care. But there's a much better chance that this will EVEN OUT the injuries for the league with the heals. The team still has to use them right for them to mean anything anyway. You get 1 per half, with no carryover, so if one is used too early, then you don't have another, or if you don't use it, it's gone. If we did injuries with no heals, the AL would be 100% screwed.
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Nov 4, 2004 10:26:40 GMT -5
All I am saying is if it is going to "screw" the AL, then don't have injuries on, but if you want injuries on, then give both NL and AL the instaheal. Not having injuries on would even out the injuries for both AL and NL, if you are trying to be fair, OR you can have the AL not have injury heals during the regular season, and turn injuries off for the playoffs or World Series. Since AL doesn't play NL during the season other then interleague. That way AL teams are completely even with eachother, and NL teams are even with eachother. I mean this injury thing seems more of a hassle then a good thing. It was supposed to be for realizm, but I don't remember anything in real MLB that gave instaheals. Did Jason Giambi get an insta heal for the Yankees? Did Kevin Browns hand insta heal, did Rivera get an emotional instaheal after the deaths of his family? That is 3 big blows to the Yankees that cost them in the Playoffs. I mean thats just one team. I just say if we have injuries on, then AL and NL should be even in insta heals, or we should not have injuries on. It's the only fair thing to do. I mean what does AL having insta heals have anything to do with NL. During the season you don't play us. Therefore instaheals should not affect NL vs. AL, so if all AL doesn't have instaheal, then you should all have the same chances as eachother. I still think the best way to keep injuries even, is to keep them off.
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Post by rangersgm on Nov 4, 2004 17:55:41 GMT -5
I mean what does AL having insta heals have anything to do with NL. During the season you don't play us. Therefore instaheals should not affect NL vs. AL, so if all AL doesn't have instaheal, then you should all have the same chances as eachother. I still think the best way to keep injuries even, is to keep them off. You already said the answer. The point is that giving the AL teams the instant heal doesnt affect the NL. But it does affect the AL, for instance if I have Webb, Blalock, and Berkman all go down for extensive periods of time (which isn't that unlikely) my team would be screwed. This way it gives the AL teams a chance to even it out within the league. It really has nothing at all to do with the NL. That's why most people don't view it as a problem.
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Nov 5, 2004 16:46:12 GMT -5
See you don't understand. If all the AL teams are gonna each be screwed injury wise, then why do you need the instaheal? If you all will be equally screwed, then don't have the instaheal. You wanted realizm, but you are saying to give the AL teams an "instaheal" which is not real, I mean you all want the best of both worlds, have injuries, but have a safe haven if a key player gets injured for a long time. What if all the AL teams have back-ups get hurt and you all don't need the instaheal, and five NL teams have 2 key players go down, they have to sit through it, while you guys don't have to worry about it. I just think if you guys get instaheal so should NL, it is not fair to help the AL and screw the NL, just because you wanted to add injuries into the game. Ok I understand that you say NL doesn't get bad injuries and AL gets terrible ones. Well that's part of the game, if you really want injuries, then you should roll with it. If all injuries were supposed to be even, then we wouldn't have added injuries.
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Post by Mohandas Gandhi on Nov 5, 2004 18:24:06 GMT -5
it doesnt screw the nl it screws the al opponents. it doesnt hurt my team at all if a team like anaheim can use an instant heal because in real life the al and nl has equal amount of injuries, and this helps make it even. and plus, its only one per half and there is a good chance from what i here that al teams will get hurt much more than they would in real life, and this gives them an opportunity to have the same amount as in real life.
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Post by Jim Hendry on Nov 6, 2004 20:31:29 GMT -5
I thnk the concern being expressed is that any injury in the AL will automatically be written off/assumed as getting "screwed" by the game but NL injuries will just be accepted as "realism."
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Nov 8, 2004 18:18:24 GMT -5
basically what i am saying is that why do AL and NL injuries have to be the same when we don't play eachother. Even though there is only one per half season. Say this happens, hypothetically we will use two teams. St. Louis loses Albert Pujols for the year, and has a 4 minor injuries (3-4 games). Chicago White Sox lose Jim Thome for the year and has 10 players get minor injuries (3-4 games). Jim Thome's injury gets erased. Now it looks like this- Cards lose Pujols all year and still have those 4 minor injuries, White Sox have 10 minor injuries. Tell me how that is making injuries even. I mean I understand AL gets more injuries, but people voted for injuries to be on, not for injuries to be even for every team, if we wanted injuries even for every team then we would keep injuries off. No teams having these "instaheals" would keep AL even with AL and NL even with NL. Why not give NL the "instaheal" it will still have injuries stay even, just prevents a huge blow to any team, cause that is all you are doing by giving all AL teams instaheals is preventing a big blow for all AL teams.
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Post by billybeane on Nov 11, 2004 11:03:03 GMT -5
to save any problems from occuring, why don't we just keep injuries off like the last season...there's no fair way to look at it if injuries are on...because if the AL has "instaheal" the NL disagrees and if the AL doesn't, they're fucked with more injuries...which is stupid because I for one am in the AL and sure as hell don't want a ton of injuries because it wont be "realistic" and that's what we were shooting for with this anyways...instead it's just a lot more hectic than it has to be
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Post by James Evans on Nov 11, 2004 14:44:32 GMT -5
Maybe if you lose the DH and keep injuries on
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Nov 12, 2004 18:32:45 GMT -5
Agreed, injuries should not be on if there has to be all this instaheal stuff to make things even out. Things were even last year, no complaining at all, season went great, and was supposed to start another season right away, thanks to all these changes we have had to wait all this time to get everything ready, when it would have been great to just leave everything as is.
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Post by Brian Cashman on Nov 13, 2004 20:36:06 GMT -5
I agree. This injuries thing is becomign a huge hassel. The leageu was fine the way it was but now we got the new editor hopefully arriving soon. So lets just do the new editor and keep injuries off
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