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Post by Bill Stoneman on Mar 12, 2008 4:02:31 GMT -5
2011 All Star Game
To be played at Tropicana Field, St. Petersburg, Florida
Home of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays
Starters National League C- Brian McCann (ATL) 1B- Steve Bailey (ATL) 2B- Bob Bernard (LA) 3B- Alex Gordon (PHI) SS- Jimmy Rollins (ARI) LF- Albert Pujols (COL) CF- Hunter Pence (PHI) RF- Jeff Francoeur (ATL) DH- David Wright (COL)
American League C- Jeff Mathis (ANA) 1B- Prince Fielder (TEX) 2B- Dustin Pedroia (BOS) 3B- Ian Stewart (TOR) SS- Jarrod Saltalamacchia (MIN) LF- Ryan Harvey (ANA) CF- Jeremy Reed (ANA) RF- Delmon Young (SEA) DH- Aaron Baldiris (TOR)
Remainder of rosters to be chosen by ANA and PHI.
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Post by Bill Stoneman on Mar 12, 2008 4:51:43 GMT -5
American League Lineup And Roster
Starting Lineup 1. CF Jeremy Reed, ANA 2. DH Aaron Baldiris, TOR 3. C Jeff Mathis, ANA 4. 1B Prince Fielder, TEX 5. 3B Ian Stewart, TOR 6. SS Jarrod Saltalamacchia, MIN 7. RF Delmon Young, SEA 8. LF Ryan Harvey, ANA 9. 2B Dustin Pedroia, BOS Starting Pitcher- Abel Moreno, TB
Reserves C Howie Kendrick, BOS 1B Adrian Gonzalez, TB 1B Kendry Morales, DET 2B Eric Duncan, NYY 2B Tommy Jones, ANA 3B Ryan Zimmerman, CLE SS Khalil Greene, KC SS Joey Gathright, SEA OF Adam Dunn, OAK OF David Dejesus, TB OF Bob Allison, BAL OF David Murphy, CHW
Bullpen Roy Halladay, NYY Marc Sauer, OAK Ervin Santana, ANA Oliver Perez, SEA Andrew Brown, MIN Alexander Farfan, DET Cla Meredith, TEX Luis Ayala, TOR Shea Douglas, SEA
Closer- Todd Pennington, SEA
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Mar 12, 2008 9:58:01 GMT -5
not that I really care that much cause the ASG means nothing, but how does Hunter Pence get in over Roy Williams in the OF? lmao
Pence- .330, .400, .609 with fielding% of 1.000 on pace for 57 doubles, 35 HR's and 31 SB's and 74 BB's-158 K's in 642 AB's
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Roy Williams- .355, .431, .634 with fielding of 1.000 on pace for 65 doubles, 26 HR's, 27 SB's and 68 BB's-67 K's in 513 AB's
just don't see how you can justify voting for Pence over Williams, but it's alright lol
I don't think that all my players should be starting or anything but you wonder why AL keeps winning the ASG? maybe we should just try and get the best players in the game so we have a chance? Not saying Pence is a bad player but if we expect to contend with the AL then we need to get the best on the field, or do we want to keep giving ANA a reason to say that the AL is better than the NL? lol
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Post by Andy Van Slyke on Mar 12, 2008 10:11:42 GMT -5
not that I really care that much cause the ASG means nothing, but how does Hunter Pence get in over Roy Williams in the OF? lmao Yet you made a whole post about it. It's the ASG, it's fun.
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Mar 12, 2008 10:16:44 GMT -5
yea I spent an entire 3 minutes making a post about it.... wow that shows I care SOOOO much lol
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Post by Mike Rizzo on Mar 12, 2008 11:18:14 GMT -5
Can we please keep the player arguments at a minimum on this thread until PHI posts the NL side so the NL roster won't show up on like the third page? This does not just apply to COL, but for everyone.
I never said it was against the rules, I just think everyone else in the league would like to see both lineups on the same page. Now that PHI has saved a spot for his post, we're fine. Go ahead and get back to your arguing.
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Post by Jose Canseco on Mar 12, 2008 11:22:20 GMT -5
hey Hoagie its not against the rules to post here...
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Post by Jose Canseco on Mar 12, 2008 11:36:07 GMT -5
I LOVE how Jeff forgets to put the #1 stat....Pence leads the league in RUNS SCORED...89 for Pence and 46 for Williams...
but your a spin doctor so you probably KNEW that just failed to say it b/c it doesnt help your case
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Post by John Kruk on Mar 12, 2008 11:50:48 GMT -5
NL Lineup
1 CF Hunter Pence (Phi) 2 DH David Wright (Col) 3 3B Alex Gordon (Phi) 4 LF Albert Pujols (Col) 5 C Brian McCann (Atl) 6 RF Jeff Francoeur (Atl) 7 1B Steve Bailey (Atl) 8 2B Bob Bernard (LA) 9 SS Jimmy Rollins (AZ) SP Felix Hernandez (FLA)
Reserves C Justin Morneau (Phi) 1B Brett Harper (Pit) 2B Jose Reyes (Col) SS Dan Spangler (NYM) SS Brandon Watson (Mon) 3B Chipper Jones (SD) 3B Andy Marte (Cin) OF Roy Williams (Col) OF Rajai Davis (Stl) OF Bill Thomas (Mil) OF James Looney (LA) OF Miguel Cabrera (Phi)
Bullpen Jeff Francis (Phi) Mark Prior (Chc) Ian Snell (Cin) Ryan Madsen (Pit) Josh Beckett (Fla) Christopher Gruler (SF) Rosman Garcia (Hou) Ryan Wagner (Col) Raymond Sadler (NYM)
Closer- Chad Cordero (NYM)
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Mar 12, 2008 15:49:35 GMT -5
I LOVE how Jeff forgets to put the #1 stat....Pence leads the league in RUNS SCORED...89 for Pence and 46 for Williams... but your a spin doctor so you probably KNEW that just failed to say it b/c it doesnt help your case Yeah you know runs for a #2 hitter and a #5 hitter with a difference of 70 AB's means alot more than the BA/OBP/SLG%... but I am a spin doctor so I left runs out of the argument... but I didn't say that Roy Williams leads the NL in OBP is 2nd in BA and 5th in SLG%...... but those aren't near as important as runs....
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Post by Philip J. Fry on Mar 12, 2008 21:59:06 GMT -5
Hermida definitely deserved it over DeJesus but I'm not complaining. Or am I?
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Post by Doug Melvin on Mar 12, 2008 22:15:07 GMT -5
Segovia off? I guess no respect for the guy...still, lol.
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Post by Mike Rizzo on Mar 12, 2008 22:37:05 GMT -5
I don't really see your argument about Dejesus vs Hermida. Dejesus has a better avg, obp, slg, more SB and almost twice as many 2B and would have more H, R, RBI if he had as many AB as Hermida. Dejesus has also made 0 errors in 148 total chances to Hermida's 9 in 166 total chances. The only thing Hermida's got on Dejesus is a 6 more HR. And all things considered, Dejesus spent a considerable amount this year playing in Shea, where it's difficult to hit, as opposed to the bandbox that is TEX's stadium.
The Segovia argument does make sense, on the surface. I still think he should be in, but if you look at the NL pitchers, the ones that weren't their team's only ASG pick were Cordero, Wagner, Snell, Francis and Sadler. Cordero and Wagner are both putting up sick numbers (and are relievers), so they're not worth the argument. Snell and Francis have put up more innings, wins, K's and have better avg/obp/slg numbers (and the difference between Segovia's 2.73 era and Snell's 2.65 era and Francis' 2.78 era are rather negligible).
Looking at Sadler vs Segovia, it is obviously a large gap in ERA. Sadler is leading the majors in wins, which I think (even in today's Moneyball world) would be difficult to leave off the ASG roster. The only other thing Sadler has significantly better numbers than Segovia are in K's and XBH. Also, Sadler shut down PHI in a 4-1 victory only a few sims ago (on 5/22). This all being said, I would probably have picked Segovia over Sadler myself, but I can definitely see PHI's reasoning.
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Post by meno on Mar 12, 2008 22:43:16 GMT -5
I could definitely make an argument of Michael over Sadler as well. 1 Fewer win, a half run better era and 4 complete games.
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Post by John Kruk on Mar 13, 2008 0:16:45 GMT -5
Segovia off? I guess no respect for the guy...still, lol. The Brewers went from contenders to pretenders!
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Post by Bill Stoneman on Mar 13, 2008 3:13:36 GMT -5
The results of this will have to be posted later. Didn't have time tonight (or last night, whatever you want to call this), and don't have the time to write it up now. THU's sim will go on as normal though, regardless of if it's posted by then.
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Post by Doug Melvin on Mar 13, 2008 6:41:24 GMT -5
I was thinking Segovia over...Beckett, Francis or Prior. But who cares. Bill Thomas made it. I know it is a hard job picking. At least it wasn't like when COL did it, lol.
Nice job PHI.
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Mar 13, 2008 10:53:16 GMT -5
I was thinking Segovia over...Beckett, Francis or Prior. But who cares. Bill Thomas made it. I know it is a hard job picking. At least it wasn't like when COL did it, lol. Nice job PHI. just wait until next year...
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Mar 13, 2008 10:54:59 GMT -5
I don't really see your argument about Dejesus vs Hermida. Dejesus has a better avg, obp, slg, more SB and almost twice as many 2B and would have more H, R, RBI if he had as many AB as Hermida. Dejesus has also made 0 errors in 148 total chances to Hermida's 9 in 166 total chances. The only thing Hermida's got on Dejesus is a 6 more HR. And all things considered, Dejesus spent a considerable amount this year playing in Shea, where it's difficult to hit, as opposed to the bandbox that is TEX's stadium. The Segovia argument does make sense, on the surface. I still think he should be in, but if you look at the NL pitchers, the ones that weren't their team's only ASG pick were Cordero, Wagner, Snell, Francis and Sadler. Cordero and Wagner are both putting up sick numbers (and are relievers), so they're not worth the argument. Snell and Francis have put up more innings, wins, K's and have better avg/obp/slg numbers (and the difference between Segovia's 2.73 era and Snell's 2.65 era and Francis' 2.78 era are rather negligible). Looking at Sadler vs Segovia, it is obviously a large gap in ERA. Sadler is leading the majors in wins, which I think (even in today's Moneyball world) would be difficult to leave off the ASG roster. The only other thing Sadler has significantly better numbers than Segovia are in K's and XBH. Also, Sadler shut down PHI in a 4-1 victory only a few sims ago (on 5/22). This all being said, I would probably have picked Segovia over Sadler myself, but I can definitely see PHI's reasoning. Now make a case for Bernard(All Star with .398 SLG%? lol if you were allowed to vote for more than 1 guy off your own team and were allowed to vote for who you thought deserved it Reyes woulda won cause Bernard won by 1 vote lmao) over Reyes at 2B and Hunter over Williams in the OF
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Post by Mike Rizzo on Mar 13, 2008 12:39:35 GMT -5
No arguments from me because I voted for Reyes and Williams.
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