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Post by xindepogx on Jul 5, 2007 22:29:03 GMT -5
I propose we move the PFA starting time from July 1st to the beginning of the season. This will help minimize or control the amount of PFA offers over a 5 month span rather than a 2 month span, creating a less hectic situation for an agent to work extensions, minimizes the workload for an agent. Hopefully, overall, keep the season running smoothly.
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Post by Mike Rizzo on Jul 5, 2007 22:36:03 GMT -5
at first i thought this wouldn't be a great idea, because then the players decisions would be based off stats that would be 2 years old by the time the contracts would be done. but this would be kinda realistic...keep in mind though that no player would want to sign an extension at his current market value if he hit, say, .225 (unless he's cristian guzman). the guys who hit .325 the year before after being career .270ish hitters would want their extensions at that point. but then again, there will be owners who would feel like their players were asking for way too much. from an agent's point of view, it means there will be more money for players all around. but for gm's, career years would be much more expensive if they came the year before contract years. i'm not sure if i'm being completely coherent, but i'm hoping somebody can catch my drift and maybe word it a bit better.
on the other hand, i personally have no problem keeping up with pfa offers as an agent, but i bet some of the others do.
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Post by Jose Canseco on Jul 5, 2007 23:02:46 GMT -5
i also think we should get rid of the rule limiting the amount of offers you can make on a player...we should be allowed to make as many offers as needed...
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Post by Cal Ripken Jr. on Jul 5, 2007 23:21:45 GMT -5
The limit on offers keeps the money in balance because for the last offer, you're going to offer enough to sign him no matter what if you want him.
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Post by Mike Rizzo on Jul 6, 2007 9:52:40 GMT -5
barely anyone actually uses the 3 chances to resign anyone, i'd say it's a non-issue...but more chances would mean constant lowballing.
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Post by Doug Melvin on Jul 6, 2007 10:59:03 GMT -5
I agree
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Jul 6, 2007 12:31:55 GMT -5
the 3 offers is actually a perfect rule cause I would not wanna deal with the terrible offers if I was an agent, I would never offer a fair contract, just keep lowballing until the agent gets so fed up with listenting to offers they would accept.
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Post by Billy Beane on Jul 6, 2007 12:46:16 GMT -5
i'm an agent in HHSL and we don't have an offer limit, and i very very rarely get lowballed, and i never get so fed up with a low offer that i just accept it.. you have to remember that as an agent you have the power to make your client walk..
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Jul 6, 2007 13:05:48 GMT -5
thats the thing, in here we don't have a "client walks" rule, we have a 3 limit offer where if they don't accept after 3 offers(due to lowballing) they walk. The client walks thing would lead to people bitching about agents having clients walk so they can hit FA and either demand more or so the agent can get them. The 3 offer rule is perfect, it lets the team offer 3 times, they get told each time what the player is looking for and why they didn't accept, and if the team doesn't offer correctly he walks after 3 offers. If the team bitches about that Mike looks at the last offer and makes a committee for whether he should have signed like a trade committee(has only happened once, and the committee fucked it up ). But as for the re-signings being open at the beg. of the year, I agree they should be. Player does bad the prev. year you are going to pay a little more then if you wait until mid season and they are still doing bad. Player does great the year before you are going to pay more then if you wait until mid season and he isn't doing as good, but less then if you wait until mid season and he is still doing great. So you are taking a chance but you have more time to get stuff done.
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Post by Jose Canseco on Jul 6, 2007 13:51:07 GMT -5
the 3 offers is actually a perfect rule cause I would not wanna deal with the terrible offers if I was an agent, I would never offer a fair contract, just keep lowballing until the agent gets so fed up with listenting to offers they would accept. dont u do that anyways?
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Post by Darryl Strawberry on Jul 6, 2007 13:52:58 GMT -5
whatever works
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Post by Jose Canseco on Jul 6, 2007 15:20:16 GMT -5
whatever works and you wonder why people dont congratulate you after your WS win...same reason they wont congratulate me when I win one...no one likes an asshole
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Post by Cal Ripken Jr. on Jul 6, 2007 15:24:27 GMT -5
when? don't you mean if?
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Post by Jose Canseco on Jul 6, 2007 20:38:31 GMT -5
no I mean when...I dunno why your talking trash neither of us are close but I know I have alot more talent then the O's and I should get mine first
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Post by Cal Ripken Jr. on Jul 6, 2007 20:44:42 GMT -5
I've been talking trash to you for years. I don't know why you decided to talk back now. It's just in jest honestly, but to tell you the truth, the chances of either of us winning a world series is slim.
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Post by Billy Beane on Jul 7, 2007 18:34:18 GMT -5
i agree ^^ you both suck..
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Post by Cal Ripken Jr. on Jul 7, 2007 18:39:45 GMT -5
Not like your chances are any better
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